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Kona-One Freestyle at the Olympics |
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Denis Dagenais
Date : 2/3/2010 2:16:10 PM |
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Now that Kona has an ISAF recognition, maybe the next project for the Kona One Design would be to develop and support the freestyle-longboard event at all it`s racing regattas.
Surely with all new sports that have been added in summer and winter olympics longboard freestyle would be a crowd pleaser (key issue).
So within the Kona-One culture to breathe new life into longboard windsurfing, I suspect freestyle events would attract additional interest to this racing class. And with success, maybe one day have the Kona-One as the official freestyle-longboard for the Olympics.
Denis Dagenais (Canada)
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Joachim Larsson
Date : 2/3/2010 6:29:45 PM |
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I agree more freestyle longboard events toghter with Kona ONE regattas and ad Slalom too and we have succes.
Joachim
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marc
Date : 2/18/2010 3:28:01 PM |
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would the classic fresstyle come back soon?
It would be nice.
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Tor
Date : 2/19/2010 5:17:50 AM |
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Hi Marc,
We certainly have the opportunity with the Kona One. The class is growing, and the board is well suited. We just have to be better at implementing it properly at main events. Denis (post #1) has provided us with the basic framework - but we need to re-construct the old scoring system - so anyone remembering - or sitting on some litterature are VERY welcome to share it with us.:)
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Denis Dagenais
Date : 2/19/2010 4:03:49 PM |
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Baby steps would be needed to fit-in at each Kona events some freestyle sessions.
If light wind is preventing event-organizers to set up a racing course, stay near the beach and run freestyle. Run 3 minute routines with personal-choice-music.
Have fun, recognize skills, support efforts.
Scoring mechanisms will come later, at first your freestyle jury will also need exposure. Make scoring simple, the importance is to keep an eye on the sailor`s routine (don`t put your head down to write, you will miss out on something). More rigid scoring should take place when some sense of fairness is required for the level of freestyle tricks that are being accomplished and the number of participants is showing growth.
Please note, while fun will be underway, the wind will pick up and surely the freestyle session will be postponed to let the racing take over the schedule again. Have fun. Go Kona freestylers.
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marc
Date : 2/28/2010 9:40:09 PM |
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we could also do like they do in the newschool freestyle or the wave contests.
we only have to change the names of tricks.
in my opinion, it's a simple way. but to define a different spirit as proposed by denis is a good idea.
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Jocahim Larsson
Date : 3/1/2010 9:54:58 AM |
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Denis and Marc for the Olympic agins Rossi!
Thats sounds cool
Joachim
See you in Miami!
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Denis Dagenais
Date : 3/1/2010 7:53:07 PM |
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In the 80`s there was a great book ($13cdn) on freestyle
Title : Roger Jones, Freestyle Windsurfing with Gary Eversole.
Full with pictures and description
(ISBN 0-7706-0074-3) or (GV811.63.W56J66). This was printed in Canada.
Hopefully this book got distributed in other countries.
For longboard freestyle, tricks already have names and it`s easy.
A railride is a : railride, a railride nose sink is a : railride nose sink.
A clew-first into a sail 360 is : same name.
A jump through the boom is : same name.
A fall (or dump) into the water is : a fall (..and hope nobody was looking)
No complexity on names :: What you do is the name of your freestyle trick.
On special names, all that is needed to know is that an Everoll is riding-sailing on the bottom of your board.
Then comes the transitions. From a sail or board trick you will be tacking or jibing
your board into something else. This elevates the complexity of your routine and should be scored accordingly. A transition can also require changing sailing direction without tacking or jibing
Other items that can enhance your freestyle performance are sailor acrobatics
and theatrical situations that can mix in with your music selection.
In all have fun, put the music on, reserve 1hour or 2 on Sunday regattas, run freestyle. It`s a crowd pleaser. Can only be good for longboarding. Regatta officials : remember to reward the winners. Draw prizes for all freestyle participants. Make it interesting. Repeat at your next event. All the best.
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Mike
Date : 3/2/2010 9:59:55 PM |
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Yep made it to the UK and I had a copy so may go and have a rummage and dig it out
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freestyle-Windsurfing-Roger-B-Jones/dp/0062507257
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Tor
Date : 3/3/2010 6:16:35 AM |
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Great info guys. Many thanks.......
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John I
Date : 3/3/2010 11:19:39 AM |
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There's the different Mag's with their archives too. Not for comprehensive stuff, but maybe for references like the book listed above?
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jtw
Date : 3/8/2010 6:16:25 PM |
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Is the Kona One's mast track durable enough for rail rides and Everroles? Any equipment failures reported?
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jtw
Date : 3/8/2010 6:16:25 PM |
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Is the Kona One's mast track durable enough for rail rides and Everroles? Any equipment failures reported?
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marc
Date : 3/8/2010 11:54:20 PM |
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after 3years of railriding, my kona one is still alive.
and all the stuff too.
It seems to be a good product adapted to longboard freestyling.
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John I
Date : 3/9/2010 12:49:38 AM |
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Only one I've heard that popped one out was the validation board that ended up in the gorge. Seen hundreds since. Those first around the world for importers to see models are very widely ranging in their performance. Egg shells to bullet proof with all sorts in between.....
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| Post: #16 |
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Denis Dagenais
Date : 3/9/2010 4:02:32 AM |
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no damage in 2 years : for the mast track
no damage on mast breaking (note : Epic Mast provided with Kona in North America)
Please note that I started to use an `old` mast pad to cover the universal joint to prevent scratching of the soft-deck. This mostly from Everolls and Stern First railrides.
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marc
Date : 3/10/2010 11:52:58 PM |
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denis, peux-tu me traduire s'il te plait? je n'ai rien compris à ce qu'a dit John I.
merci
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Denis Dagenais
Date : 3/11/2010 1:28:54 AM |
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a la question de marc:
Il a entendu qu`une seule occurence que le rail de planche se détache du flotteur.
Le restant est flou pour moi aussi. J`imagine faudrait juste donner des détails sur du vécu personnel.
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marc
Date : 3/11/2010 9:36:02 PM |
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merci denis.
I would say again that the kona one has no problem with an "intensive freestyle" use.
the only thing is the grip near the everole because I felt down on the mast.
else, the railriding doesn't seem to grabb anything on the board.
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Ilan
Date : 3/11/2010 10:51:59 PM |
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Back to the subject of this thread:
Let me remind you that there is no windsurfing at the Olympics. There is SAILING at the Olympics and the sailing community accepts one type of boat where a single sailor stands up and allows to pump (This ridiculous freak-show makes the other boats look better).
I do not criticize that though. Windsurfing is too environment-dependent to fit at the summer Olympics. Like winter sports. I suggest that the windsurfing industry should cease the Olympic board debate and join forces to create a Water Olympics.
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| Post: #21 |
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Denis Dagenais
Date : 3/12/2010 6:20:56 AM |
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Well in Sweden (Motala) at the 2009 Kona Worlds, there was the slalom event where pumping was allowed. Nothing freaky about that event.
Adrenaline was flowing in each waves from the qualifiers into the finals.
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| Post: #22 |
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PC
Date : 3/13/2010 2:34:00 AM |
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Back to the topic indeed (if I read Denis right): yes freestyle would make for a crowd pleaser indeed, make it to the Olympics or not.
Racing attracts... racers, and few newcomers. Freestyle attracts crowds, and makes for better publicity about the sport in general. There were huge crowds to watch freestyle when it was a demo event in LA in 1984, and monstrous crowd to watch the final at the Worlds in 1983. I believe that in Perth was well run as well, as well as in 1989 in Newcastle, etc. Freestyle has a high content of excitement for a relatively short period of time, compared to racing.
Kona is probably as good a board as any for that. This will require you guys putting your brain together to make it interesting and fun, and not a sideshow for when races just happen to be done for the day. The mistake would be to belittle that little time.
'luck, I don't own a Kona myself ;-)
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